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    Posted: 08 September 2009 at 2:58pm
Hello Everyone,

I had a question regarding waist training--or I suppose 'rib' training would be more appropriate. I am looking to drastically decrease my waistline and ideally I'd like it to be about 18". I am interested in doing this via tightlacing as my other options are rather drastic (including the ever invasive surgical rib removal)
The thing is in all honesty I don't want to be wearing a corset my entire life to maintain the small waist. This is why I'm looking to reshape the diameter of the lower floating ribs only. I've heard mixed things about the permanency of tapering the floating ribs-- that they will stay reshaped through very dedicated long term training belt use, but I've also heard they will slowly 'unbend' once the belt or corset comes off. Does anyone have any experience with this? Also, about how many inches can the waist be decreased through the lower rib contouring only? Thanks to everyone for consideration.
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Quote Annalai Replybullet Posted: 08 September 2009 at 5:57pm

I have waist and rib trained and have an 18 inch waist. It took me 4 years to achieve the shape I have wearing corsets 23/7. My ribcage stays much the same but my waist slowly starts to expand back every time I remove my corset for a shower. To keep my shape I need to wear my corset.

You write training belts. You should not use belts to train your lower ribs this should be done with a corset suitable for this. A training belt is for the waist only and should be between the lower ribs and hipbone and not constict the ribs at all. Read this about starting to train with a belt. http://www.staylace.com/thomaslierse/@uabtbytt.htm

Take a look at Wasp Creation. Her corsets trains the lower ribs and the ones I started to use to train my ribs and waist.

http://www.waspcreations.com/

Well to my knowledge waist or rib training can never be permanent. How much and how often you need to wear a corset to keep the shape I have no idea about as I wear mine 23/7.

Read this article and especially chapter 3

http://www.staylace.com/medicaladvice/med_cthb.htm

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Quote topnew Replybullet Posted: 10 September 2009 at 7:56am
Good luck for everyone!I always think the future will be better!
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Quote Lady-J Replybullet Posted: 19 September 2009 at 9:34pm
Annalai;

thank you for your response. I do wish to start rib training however I am slightly confused about the difference between the two... I understand training the ribs involves contouring the actual rib bones, while waist training is 'flossing' of the muscles, skin and fat that compose the waist or mid torso. Logically speaking, I'd say the lower ribs do effect the circumference of the waist itself as they are involved in the bone structure of the waist area. I'd like to EVENTUALLY and carefully get down to 18 inches, and ideally I'd like that to be through training the lower ribs ONLY since it seems to be more permanent than flossing. In your experience, how many inches is reduced through rib training only, if you don't mind me asking...
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Quote Victorian Lady Replybullet Posted: 07 January 2010 at 1:21am
I want to start waist training, but I don't know where to start. I have some questions:

1. What style of corset should I buy?
2. How often should I wear it?
3. How can I wear a corset safely so that it doesn't damage my inner organs or bones?
The tighter, the better.
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Quote Lady-J Replybullet Posted: 08 January 2010 at 4:39am
There are a lot of archives on staylace.com that describe the process of starting tightlacing and how it affects the various organs and bones (ribs). To be quite honest, I'd be VERY careful and wary about waist training. I realize it's documented on various internet sites that it CAN be a safe process if done correctly. Key word is can, which implies there can also be damage done to your body if proper methods aren't used.
The second thing I'm very wary of is if these internet sources claiming possible safety can necessarily be trusted. Believe me, I'm not trying to rag on waist-training or offend people who practice it. I was seriously considering doing it for a while and still entertain the idea of doing sometime in the future. The idea of a slimmer waist is a very attractive one, and I always keep an open mind and initially had a very optimistic attitude towards doing it. However, after reading about the 'safety' of organ displacement (!) that waist training entails, I have to admit my mind was open but I couldn't deny my deeper instinct. And that instinct screams "dangerous".

Ideally I wish there were a method in which only the lower ribs could be altered to decrease waist circumference, without the effect of moving around the organs in order to do so. Perhaps this is possible, you may ask some people on the forum about it if you want to opt for safety. It's what I'm going to look into at least.

Hope that helps

Edited by Lady-J - 08 January 2010 at 4:41am
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Quote Annalai Replybullet Posted: 08 January 2010 at 1:37pm

 

I must say I am suprised to read the negative wiew on tightlacing and corsets It sounds like you have only focused on the negative things. Like everything else if not done correctly too tight too fast bad corset etc. you can get hurt but your body will be in severe pain and get different problems before it gets dangerous and if you ignore this well tightlacing or wearing a corset is not for you. But for everyone else who does not ignore how they feel wear and wears a custom made corset suitable for tightlacing and lace slowly and comfortable and understands it will take months and years to slowly and safely reduce their waist will not do anything harmful to their bodys if they are over 18-20 years as you should wait until your body is fully grown of course.

And in your first question you even have the idea about surgical removing some ribs. Well this is far more dangerous in my wiew.

Do also be aware during a pregnancy the organs actually move around a lot more and it puts a lot more pressure on a body compared to tighlacing.

Now to answer the question from Victorian Lady

An underbust corset 4-6 inches smaller than your natural waist is a good start ( 6 inches only if you are bigger). This first corset can be an off the rack corset. If you want to continue to waist train smaller you should order a custom made corset suitable for tightlacing and waist training.

You start with wearing your new corset loosely laced for maybe 2 hours the first day. Never try to fully close it your body and your corset needs a slow break in period this normally takes 1-2 weeks. Day by day you wear your corset a bit tighter and more hours it should feel comfortable some soreness can be expected but you should not be in real pain if so remove your corset. Do not try to sleep in your corset before you can wear it comfortable from morning to evening so sleeping in your corset comes after a few weeks of wearing it at daytime.

Listen to your body if you feel pain loose the laces or remove your corset. A corset should feel like a tight but comfortable hug it should not be painful if so something is wrong.

I give this links again http://www.waspcreations.com/  This corset maker is known for her tightlacing corsets even if you do not order from her she has useful information on her site like the link below.

Read this http://www.waspcreations.com/faq.htm

And this 4 pages http://www.staylace.com/medicaladvice/med_cthb.htm

And this site http://corsetreturn.topcities.com/

this page http://corsetreturn.topcities.com/harmful.htm

Btw the women in pink dress is me and I am a 23/7 tightlacer since many years. I have no ill effects from my tightlacing. Do be aware it has taken my 4 YEARS to slowly and comfortable reduce my waist to the 18 inch waistsize I have today and my corsets is custom made suitable for tightlacing.

This link goes to another forum we discuss more about tightlacing/waist training.

http://www.corsetcollege.net/

Annalai



Edited by Annalai - 08 January 2010 at 1:40pm
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Quote GothicTechie Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2010 at 10:32am
How big was your waist originally Annalai?
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Quote Annalai Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2010 at 11:24am

Here is the information about my waist size when I started and now.

http://www.retroxotique.com/photos/Celebrities/AnnaLai/intro.html

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Quote Lady-J Replybullet Posted: 15 January 2010 at 11:08pm
I've heard it's possible to permanently remove inches from the waist with lower rib contouring alone, and that it doesn't need to be maintained (at least not the way the other methods involving upper ribs do). What truth is there in this, if any?

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Quote Katsuko Replybullet Posted: 14 November 2010 at 1:08pm
Annalai is (naturally) correct. There is  no danger in corseting if done carefully and sensibly. As for lower rib surgical modification, it's a myth. It's not actually done.

I have not been tightlaced for as long as Annalai, but I take it seriously, am laced 22/7, engage in a busy professional life with a lot of travel, and it does me no harm at all.
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